{"id":127385,"date":"2015-03-12T17:38:24","date_gmt":"2015-03-12T16:38:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.recom.link\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime-2\/"},"modified":"2015-03-12T17:57:40","modified_gmt":"2015-03-12T16:57:40","slug":"debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/","title":{"rendered":"Debatet mbi pajtiminn\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd &#8211; p\u00ebrmbledhje"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Debatet mbi pajtimin, t\u00eb mbajtura koh\u00ebt e fundit n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd, kan\u00eb treguar se fuqin\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb madh n\u00eb p\u00ebrcjelljen e mesazhit t\u00eb pajtimit e kan\u00eb artist\u00ebt, kurse bashk\u00ebsia akademike m\u00eb s\u00eb paku merr pjes\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb proces. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Dy debate, n\u00eb <a href=\"http:\/\/www.recom.link\/artists-and-university-professors-speak-on-the-subject-of-reconciliation\/\" target=\"_blank\">Sarajev\u00eb (7.12.2012)<\/a> dhe n\u00eb <a href=\"http:\/\/www.recom.link\/debate-on-reconciliation-and-justice-form-the-standpoint-of-academic-and-artistic-community\/\" target=\"_blank\">Beograd (13.12.2012)<\/a>, n\u00eb organizim t\u00eb Koalicionit p\u00ebr KOMRA, jan\u00eb mbajtur n\u00eb tem\u00ebn qendrore \u2013 si t\u00eb shkohet tutje deri tek pajimi n\u00eb rajon dhe kush jan\u00eb ata t\u00eb cil\u00ebt duhet t\u00eb jen\u00eb promovuesit kryesor t\u00eb tij, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt do t\u2019i nxisin ato pjes\u00eb t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb q\u00eb deti tash kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb pa interesuara p\u00ebr t\u2019u inkuadruar n\u00eb at\u00eb proces. Debatet jan\u00eb organizuar me an\u00ebtar\u00ebt e shquar t\u00eb bashk\u00ebsis\u00eb artistike dhe akademike, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt kan\u00eb diskutuar se si duhet t\u00eb shkohet tutje n\u00eb procesin e pajtimit, cilat kan\u00eb qen\u00eb pikat e dob\u00ebta t\u00eb angazhimit t\u00eb deritash\u00ebm dhe si mundet gjith\u00eb k\u00ebsaj t\u2019i kontribuoj\u00eb edhe procesi KOMRA.<\/p>\n<p>Pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebsit dhe pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebset kan\u00eb arritur deri te p\u00ebrfundimet e nj\u00ebjta: q\u00eb n\u00eb procesin e pajtimit rol ky \u00e7ka arti, i cili ka kapacitetin m\u00eb t\u00eb madh p\u00ebr bashk\u00ebndjesi, mir\u00ebkuptim dhe pranim t\u00eb vuajtjeve t\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00ebve, q\u00eb jan\u00eb instrumente t\u00eb paz\u00ebvend\u00ebsueshme dhe m\u00eb t\u00eb forta n\u00eb pranimin e s\u00eb kaluar\u00ebs s\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00eb dhe n\u00eb nevoj\u00ebn p\u00ebr pajtim.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Mbi fuqin\u00eb e artit <\/em><\/h3>\n<p>Duke e hapur takimin n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb, regjisori <strong>Dino Mustafiq <\/strong>ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se &#8220;politikat mbizot\u00ebruese t\u00eb rajonit ende manipulojn\u00eb me fakte, i lavd\u00ebrojn\u00eb kriminel\u00ebt si heronj dhe e kultivojn\u00eb harrimin, sepse ashtu e vazhdojn\u00eb pushtetin e tyre <em>dhe e mbajn\u00eb pozicionin politik&#8221;, por edhe se &#8220;ekzistojn\u00eb shum\u00eb vepra letrare, filmike, teatrore, muzikore dhe figurative, t\u00eb cilat e kultivojn\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj t\u00eb kujtimit kreativ, me \u00e7ka, n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb, edhe e pushton hap\u00ebsir\u00ebn e liris\u00eb nga e kaluara si ankth, nga e kaluara si e keqe dhe si gjak&#8221;. Mustafiqi ka konstatuar se &#8220;n\u00eb ndonj\u00eb platform\u00eb t\u00eb ardhme t\u00eb pajtimit duhet t\u00eb ket\u00eb kultivim t\u00eb bashk\u00ebndjesi&#8221;, dhe se \u00ebsht\u00eb i domosdosh\u00ebm reformimi i sistemit arsimor, i cili tash p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebson &#8220;nj\u00eb lloj t\u00eb harrimit institucional&#8221;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Aktori <strong>Ermin Bravo<\/strong> ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se bashk\u00ebndjesia \u00ebsht\u00eb thelb\u00ebsore p\u00ebr procesin e pajtimit. \u201eQ\u00eb t\u00eb arrijm\u00eb deri te paqja<\/em>, n\u00ebnkuptohet drejt\u00ebsia, kurse kur vendoset drejt\u00ebsia \u00ebsht\u00eb i mundur pajtimi, kurse q\u00eb t\u00eb arrihet deri te pajtimi \u00ebsht\u00eb i nevojsh\u00ebm besimi, kurse duket se n\u00ebn gjith\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb thell\u00ebsisht q\u00ebndron bashk\u00ebndjesia. Dhe si ta p\u00ebrkufizojm\u00eb, n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, si ta institucionalizojm\u00eb? Q\u00eb individi t\u00eb besoj\u00eb n\u00eb p\u00ebrfundimet e tij, t\u00eb arrij\u00eb deri te paqja vetjake me vetveten si viktim\u00eb, q\u00eb t\u00eb paq\u00ebsohet shpirti vetjak, dhe q\u00eb, k\u00ebshtu, t\u00eb arrihet deri te nj\u00eb lloj i katarz\u00ebs, q\u00eb t\u00eb mund t\u00eb arrihet deri te bashk\u00ebndjesia, q\u00eb ta kuptoj\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb nga pozita e tjetrit, krejt at\u00eb q\u00eb e ka p\u00ebrjetuar vet, q\u00eb t\u00eb mund t\u00eb ndjehet n\u00eb l\u00ebkur\u00ebn e tjetrit, jo vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr t\u00eb kuptuar, por p\u00ebr ta pranuar k\u00ebt\u00eb edhe emocionalisht. Duket s kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00ebllimi i gjith\u00eb k\u00ebsaj dhe q\u00ebllimi i KOMRA-s, si dhe q\u00ebllim i t\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebtyre nismave. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb kuptim, duket se bashk\u00ebsia etnike arrin te bashk\u00ebndjesia jo n\u00ebp\u00ebrmjet krejt k\u00ebtij zinxhiri, por n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn m\u00eb t\u00eb drejtp\u00ebrdrejt\u00eb. Thelb\u00ebsore \u00ebsht\u00eb se kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e vetmja gj\u00eb, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb t\u00eb institucionalizohet. Kurse mendoj se ekzistojn\u00eb institucione p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb dhe un\u00eb mendoj se ky \u00ebsht\u00eb arti dhe, ja, un\u00eb do t\u00eb flas nga pozicioni im: teatri, se ai \u00ebsht\u00eb bashk\u00ebndjesi e institucionalizuar &#8220;, ka th\u00ebn\u00eb ai n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fjal\u00ebs s\u00eb tij.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrej Nosov<\/strong>, student, regjisor, dhe drejtor i fondacionit <em>Hartefakt<\/em> ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se kat\u00ebr pes\u00eb vitet e fundit ekziston nj\u00eb varg i t\u00ebr\u00eb i punimeve artistike t\u00eb cilat e trajtojn\u00eb t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn, por \u00e7\u00ebshtja kryesore \u00ebsht\u00eb se si t\u00eb b\u00ebhen ato t\u00eb dukshme n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri.<\/p>\n<p>Aktori <strong>Branko Cvejiq <\/strong>n\u00eb Beograd ka theksuar se rrethet artistike pothuajse kurr\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb pasur probleme n\u00eb p\u00ebrhapjen e misionit t\u00eb pajtimit brenda bashk\u00ebsis\u00eb teatrore dhe bashk\u00ebsive t\u00eb tjera artistike, por se sfida kryesore artistike \u00ebsht\u00eb &#8220;t\u00eb zbritet nga skena dhe t\u00eb vazhdohet me \u201cinformimin\u201d mbi t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn &#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>Regjisori <strong>Stevan Bodrozha<\/strong> \u00ebsht\u00eb pajtuar se fuqia e ndikimit t\u00eb artit n\u00eb ngritjen e nd\u00ebrgjegjes \u00ebsht\u00eb e madhe, por se teatri n\u00eb lidhje me masivitetin e njer\u00ebzve deri tek t\u00eb cil\u00ebt do t\u00eb arrij\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb matet me televizionin, me estrad\u00ebn, dhe me Internetin. Megjith\u00ebk\u00ebt\u00eb, ai mund ta ndryshoj\u00eb at\u00eb person i cili e konsumon teatrin, q\u00eb ta prek\u00eb, t\u00eb shkaktoj\u00eb katarz\u00eb. Pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebsit e t\u00eb dyja takimeve kan\u00eb ardhur deri te p\u00ebrfundimi se edhe m\u00eb tutje duhet t\u00eb mendohet mbi format e artit, t\u00eb cilat mund t\u00eb arrijn\u00eb deri te nj\u00eb num\u00ebr sa m\u00eb i madh i njer\u00ebzve, kurse \u00ebsht\u00eb propozuar q\u00eb debatet e ardhshme mbi pajtimin t\u00eb fillojn\u00eb n\u00eb kuad\u00ebr t\u00eb festivaleve, si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebr shembull, festivali beogradas &#8220;Zona e lir\u00eb&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Natasha Kandiqi<\/strong>, themeluese e Fondit p\u00ebr t\u00eb Drejt\u00ebn Humanitare ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se &#8220;bashk\u00ebsia artistike n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb moment \u00ebsht\u00eb e ve\u00e7ant\u00eb me at\u00eb se mundet, m\u00eb shum\u00eb se sa bashk\u00ebsit\u00eb e tjera, grupet e tjera t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb civile, grupet e tjera profesionale, t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb n\u00eb lidhje me ballafaqimin, pajtimin dhe me afrimin e pik\u00ebpamjeve t\u00eb ndryshme t\u00eb asaj se \u00e7far\u00eb ka ndodhur n\u00eb t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn ndaj minimumit, t\u00eb cilin t\u00eb gjith\u00eb do t\u00eb themi \u2013 ky \u00ebsht\u00eb ai minimumi ndaj t\u00eb cilit kemi q\u00ebndrim t\u00eb kristalizuar&#8221;.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Pengesat objektive: mosbesimi <\/em><\/h3>\n<p>N\u00eb t\u00eb dyja takimet, pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebsit kan\u00eb ardhur te p\u00ebrfundimi se penges\u00eb e madhe drejt pajtimit \u00ebsht\u00eb fakti se t\u00eb gjitha shoq\u00ebrit\u00eb e rajonit kryesisht i glorifikojn\u00eb kriminel\u00ebt e luft\u00ebs si heronj dhe i mohojn\u00eb krimet, t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb kryer ndaj popujve t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, edhe pse p\u00ebr ato krime tash ka prova t\u00eb pakund\u00ebrshtueshme. K\u00ebsaj i ka kontribuuar, konsiderojn\u00eb pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebsit, edhe nj\u00eb varg i aktgjykimeve me t\u00eb cilat lirohen nga p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsia penale t\u00eb akuzuarit para Gjykat\u00ebs Nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare Penale t\u00eb ish Jugosllavis\u00eb (GJNPJ). Derisa pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebs t\u00eb caktuar konsiderojn\u00eb se kjo i ka shkaktuar nj\u00eb goditje t\u00eb pakthyeshme procesit t\u00eb pajtimit, shumica, megjith\u00ebk\u00ebt\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb pajtuar se proceset gjyq\u00ebsore e kan\u00eb logjik\u00ebn e vet e cila bazohet n\u00eb procedur\u00ebn e provave, por se rrjedha e tyre n\u00eb asnj\u00eb rast nuk do t\u00eb thot\u00eb se krime, s\u00eb k\u00ebndejmi edhe viktima, nuk ka pasur. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb mesazhi i cili duhet t\u00eb arrij\u00eb deri te opinioni i gjer\u00eb publik si dhe faktet, t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb paraqitur dhe provuar para GJNPJ (dhe para gjykatave komb\u00ebtare), e t\u00eb cilat flasin p\u00ebr krime dhe p\u00ebsime, me vet k\u00ebt\u00eb mund t\u2019i kontribuojn\u00eb t\u00eb kuptuarit m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb t\u00eb vuajtjeve t\u00eb \u201ct\u00eb tjer\u00ebve\u201d e, me k\u00ebt\u00eb, edhe procesit t\u00eb pajtimit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Millosh Sholaja<\/strong>, filozof nga Fakulteti i Shkencave Politike n\u00eb Banja Lluk\u00eb ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se nuk ka pajtim n\u00eb nivel t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb dhe as q\u00eb mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb, sepse nuk ka m\u00eb besim midis popujve. Deri te humbja e plot\u00eb e besimit ka rezultuar pas aktgjykimeve t\u00eb Hag\u00ebs t\u00eb shqiptuara p\u00ebr Gotovin\u00ebn dhe Haradinajn. Besimi n\u00eb nivel individual ekziston, por Sholaja nuk sheh kurrfar\u00eb kuptimi q\u00eb t\u00eb ngulet k\u00ebmb\u00eb n\u00eb pajtimin, sepse pajtimi n\u00eb nivel t\u00eb kolektivitetit m\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb i mundur. Ai ka shtuar se kjo posa\u00e7\u00ebrisht \u00ebsht\u00eb e shprehur n\u00eb viset rurale.<\/p>\n<p>Politologu <strong>Vlada Simoviq <\/strong>ka theksuar se problemi i partikularitetit \u00ebsht\u00eb problem i cili ekziston n\u00eb BdheH n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha fushat e jet\u00ebs dhe n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha bashk\u00ebsit\u00eb profesionale dhe etnike dhe se ky problem as q\u00eb mund t\u00eb mohohet dhe as q\u00eb mund t\u00eb ndryshohet \u201cnga lart\u00eb\u201d , por se duhet nisur nga niveli i bashk\u00ebsive t\u00eb vogla, t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb t\u00eb indoktrinuara me sistemin arsimor dhe diskurset publike politike. Ndryshimi i teksteve shkollore dhe formimi i komisioneve p\u00ebr t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn jan\u00eb t\u00eb vetmet q\u00eb do t\u00eb mund t\u2019i nxisnin ndryshimet, ka p\u00ebrfunduar ai.<\/p>\n<p>Filozofi <strong>Vlada Milutinoviq<\/strong> konsideron se \u201cproblemi kryesor \u00ebsht\u00eb ai se viktimat e luft\u00ebs, n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb, lidhen me fajin kolektiv. Pasi q\u00eb njer\u00ebzit e zakonsh\u00ebm e shohin se ndonj\u00eb krim lidhet me fajin kolektiv e, me vet k\u00ebt\u00eb, me ndonj\u00eb d\u00ebnim kolektiv, at\u00ebher\u00eb, ata, d\u00ebshirojn\u00eb ta refuzojn\u00eb at\u00eb faj\u00ebsi, e cila, n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, nuk ekziston, si dhe at\u00eb d\u00ebnim p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilin mendojn\u00eb se \u00ebsht\u00eb i padrejt\u00eb\u201d. Ai konsideron se \u00ebsht\u00eb e domosdoshme t\u00eb shmanget \u00e7\u00ebshtja e fajit kolektiv.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Nevoja p\u00ebr akter\u00ebt e ri t\u00eb pajtimit <\/em><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Vesna Peshiq <\/strong>n\u00eb Beograd ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se \u00ebsht\u00eb e domosdoshme t\u00eb gjendet ato thell\u00ebsi e shoq\u00ebris\u00eb, ku ndoshta q\u00ebndron motivacioni m\u00eb i thell\u00eb q\u00eb proceset e pajtimit t\u00eb vazhdohen. Mustafiqi ka shtuar se &#8220;\u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb se atje ekziston interesimi m\u00eb i lart\u00eb p\u00ebr pajtim dhe p\u00ebr ballafaqim me t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn. &#8220;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zlatiborka Popov Mom\u00e7iloviq<\/strong>, nga Fakulteti Filozofik n\u00eb Sarajev\u00ebn Lindore ka paraqitur rezultatet mbi nd\u00ebrtimin e pajtimit n\u00eb BdheH n\u00eb bashk\u00ebpunim me Universitetin n\u00eb Edinburg. N\u00eb pyetjen &#8220;kush jan\u00eb aktor\u00ebt e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm p\u00ebr nd\u00ebrtimin e pajtimit dhe t\u00eb besimit n\u00eb nivel t\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb vendit&#8221;, qytetar\u00ebt dhe qytetaret an\u00eb e k\u00ebnd BdheH m\u00eb s\u00eb shumti i besojn\u00eb institucioneve arsimore, arsimtar\u00ebve dhe arsimtareve dhe at\u00eb njer\u00ebzve q\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb nacionalist, kurse m\u00eb s\u00eb shumti mosbesim \u00ebsht\u00eb treguar ndaj organizatave t\u00eb cilat i p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsojn\u00eb viktimat. &#8221; Kurse n\u00eb fund jan\u00eb gazetar\u00ebt dhe gazetaret, politikan\u00ebt dhe politikanet&#8221;, ka cekur Popov Mom\u00e7iloviq.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Politikan\u00ebt, po ose jo<\/em><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Avokati Dragan Pjeva\u00e7 <\/strong>\u00ebsht\u00eb shprehur se ekziston pak besim n\u00eb politikan\u00ebt, edhe pse \u201cdisa politikan\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqen p\u00ebr t\u00eb lar\u00eb m\u00ebkatet e tyre t\u00eb s\u00eb kaluar\u00ebs dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb rregull dhe ua japim p\u00ebrkrahjen&#8221; dhe fjala \u00ebsht\u00eb para s\u00eb gjithash mbi &#8220;men\u00e7urin\u00eb e leht\u00eb&#8221;. &#8221; \u00cbsht\u00eb me r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi se Serbia m\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb duke luftuar dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb detyr\u00eb e elitave serbe. Na duhet paqja me fqinj\u00ebt, paqja me bot\u00ebn dhe me vetveten. Sipas meje, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb mas\u00eb e patriotizmit dhe e dashuris\u00eb ndaj atdheut dhe vendit&#8221;, ka p\u00ebrfunduar ai.<\/p>\n<p>Dramaturge dhe letrarja <strong>Ljubica Ostojiq <\/strong> ka folur n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb se p\u00ebrpjekjet e deritashme t\u00eb politikan\u00ebve n\u00eb kuptimin e pajtimit kan\u00eb ndikuar n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb &#8220;abstrakte&#8221;. &#8221; Un\u00eb, me gjith\u00eb vullnetin m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb, kurrsesi nuk mund ta imagjinoj k\u00ebt\u00eb Josipoviqin ose Tadiqin se si gjuajn\u00eb n\u00eb njer\u00ebzit, i vrasin dhe i mundojn\u00eb e pastaj rr\u00ebfehen n\u00eb em\u00ebr t\u00eb shtetit dhe t\u00eb popullit dhe ngjash\u00ebm. Kurse ai i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb vras\u00ebs, torturues etj., nuk do t\u2019a gjej viktim\u00ebn e tij ose viktimat dhe t\u00eb rr\u00ebfehet&#8221;, ka th\u00ebn\u00eb ajo dhe ka shtuar se \u00ebsht\u00eb e domosdoshme t\u00eb shihet se \u00e7far\u00eb mendojn\u00eb t\u00eb rinjt\u00eb mbi pajtimin dhe si t\u2019iu drejtohemi atyre dhe si ti animojm\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb proces.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vincent Degert<\/strong>, ambasador, Delegacioni i Komisionit Evropian n\u00eb Serbi, ka th\u00ebn\u00eb &#8220;se p\u00ebrpjekjet tona duhet t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb orientuara drejt bashk\u00ebpunimit me politikan\u00ebt&#8221;, dhe se n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb kuptim ka pasur p\u00ebrpjekje t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme, t\u00eb cilat kan\u00eb d\u00ebrguar mesazhe t\u00eb fuqishme dhe simbolike, si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebr shembull takimi i Josipoviqit me Tadiqin n\u00eb Vukovar.<\/p>\n<p>Profesoresha Vesna Rakiq Vodineiq ka qen\u00eb e nj\u00eb mendimi t\u00eb kund\u00ebrt dhe ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se pajtimi i dy kryetar\u00ebve &#8220;ka qen\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje e tyre personale n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn n\u00eb asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb futur kurrfar\u00eb institucionesh t\u00eb tjera as t\u00eb Republik\u00ebs s\u00eb Kroacis\u00eb e as t\u00eb Republik\u00ebs s\u00eb Serbis\u00eb&#8221;, dhe se \u00ebsht\u00eb fjala p\u00ebr politik\u00ebn estradeske, e cila nuk ka realizuar gjurm\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme. Edhe pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebsit e shumt\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb po ashtu e kan\u00eb shprehur dyshimin n\u00eb pik\u00ebpamje t\u00eb asaj n\u00ebse nga politikan\u00ebt duhet pritur q\u00eb t\u00eb jen\u00eb bart\u00ebs t\u00eb proceseve t\u00eb pajtimit. &#8220;Shekulli 21 qartazi m\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb koha e ndonj\u00eb gjesti t\u00eb Vili Brandit dhe ai nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb as n\u00eb horizont kur \u00ebsht\u00eb fjala p\u00ebr politikan\u00ebt tan\u00eb.&#8221;, ka th\u00ebn\u00eb Mustafiqi dhe ka shtuar se &#8220;n\u00eb arsimin dhe n\u00eb pun\u00ebn me t\u00eb rinj \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7el\u00ebsi i t\u00eb gjithave, se kjo sipas t\u00eb gjitha gjasave \u00ebsht\u00eb grupi i cili synohet, po desh\u00ebt ta quajm\u00eb k\u00ebshtu, dikush t\u00eb cilit ne duhet t\u2019i drejtohemi&#8221;.<\/p>\n<h3><em>R\u00ebnd\u00ebsia e arsimit dhe zgjimi i bashk\u00ebsis\u00eb akademike <\/em><\/h3>\n<p>N\u00eb t\u00eb dyja debatet \u00ebsht\u00eb arritur deri te p\u00ebrfundimi se nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e madhe e bashk\u00ebsis\u00eb akademike \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb pasive lidhur me \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e pajtimit. <strong>Sasha Madacki, <\/strong>drejtor i Qendr\u00ebs p\u00ebr t\u00eb Drejtat e Njeriut n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se problemi i bashk\u00ebsis\u00eb akademike \u00ebsht\u00eb se ajo &#8220;si totalitet nuk ekziston\u201d, se \u00ebsht\u00eb fjala p\u00ebr &#8220;grupet e izoluara jo m\u00eb sipas \u00e7el\u00ebsit etnik, por t\u00eb izoluara n\u00eb habitatet e veta n\u00eb kuptimin e komunitetit t\u00eb jurist\u00ebve, t\u00eb komunitetit t\u00eb historian\u00ebve&#8221;, midis t\u00eb cil\u00ebve nuk ka kurrfar\u00eb k\u00ebmbimi dhe dialogu. &#8220;Ne nuk e dim\u00eb se si kush ligj\u00ebron, se \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrmbajtja t\u00eb cil\u00ebn ne ua p\u00ebrcjellim atyre gjeneratave. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb shembull i apartheidit n\u00eb shkolla\u201d , ka th\u00ebn\u00eb Medacki dhe ka theksuar se vet bashk\u00ebsia akademike ka nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr hapje dhe p\u00ebr hulumtimin kritik n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mund t\u00eb fillohet me hulumtimin e p\u00ebrmbajtjeve, t\u00eb cilat p\u00ebrcillen tek njer\u00ebzit e ri.<\/p>\n<p>Natasha Kandiqi ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se mund\u00ebsit\u00eb e organizatave joqeveritare jan\u00eb t\u00eb kufizuara n\u00eb procesin e pajtimit, dhe se regjistri em\u00ebr p\u00ebr em\u00ebr i viktimave \u00ebsht\u00eb kontributi m\u00eb i madh, t\u00eb cilin ato mund t\u2019ia japin k\u00ebtij procesi. Ndryshimi i teksteve shkollore duhet t\u00eb vij\u00eb si nism\u00eb nga vet institucionet, p\u00ebrndryshe nuk do t\u00eb ket\u00eb kurrfar\u00eb efekti. &#8220;Bashk\u00ebsit\u00eb akademike munden edhe m\u00eb shum\u00eb se kaq dhe obligim i tyre \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtetojn\u00eb faktet shkencore. Problemi q\u00ebndron aty se n\u00eb k\u00ebto hap\u00ebsira kurr\u00eb nuk ka pasur fakte shkencore dhe gjithmon\u00eb ka pasur fakte politike. N\u00ebse ne [organizatat joqeveritare] i v\u00ebrtetojm\u00eb faktet mjekoligjore, at\u00ebher\u00eb ka shanse edhe p\u00ebr faktet shkencore, t\u00eb cilat, sipas radh\u00ebs, pra, jan\u00eb mbi faktet gjyq\u00ebsore. Faktet mjekoligjore ose forenzike e zvog\u00eblojn\u00eb hap\u00ebsir\u00ebn p\u00ebr g\u00ebnjeshtra, manipulime dhe falsifikate dhe kjo, n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb minimumi dhe maksimumi nga i cili mund t\u00eb nisemi q\u00eb pastaj mund t\u00eb na \u00e7oj\u00eb drejt nj\u00ebfar\u00eb besimi. Epo, un\u00eb k\u00ebtu e shoh rolin e bashk\u00ebsis\u00eb akademike. Bashk\u00ebsia akademike mund t\u00eb jap p\u00ebrgjigje shum\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb sakta se sa shoq\u00ebria civile&#8221;, ka th\u00ebn\u00eb Kandiqi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tanja Shljivar<\/strong> ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se &#8220;problemi ky\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb familje, n\u00eb media dhe n\u00eb sistemin e shkollimit. K\u00ebta tre mekanizma, ashtu n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb fuqishme dhe disi n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb solidare funksionoj\u00eb n\u00eb secilin entitet n\u00eb BdheH dhe n\u00eb gjith\u00eb rajonin, sa q\u00eb kurrfar\u00eb pajtimi nuk do t\u00eb vij\u00eb parasysh n\u00ebse nuk fillohet nga ato tri nivele themelore&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Kandiqi n\u00eb Beograd n\u00eb fjal\u00ebn e saj n\u00eb fund ka th\u00ebn\u00eb: &#8220;Ne, organizatat joqeveritare, as edhe si bashk\u00ebsit\u00eb artistike, nuk mund t\u00eb jemi bart\u00ebs t\u00eb aktit t\u00eb pranimit publik t\u00eb viktimave. Ne nuk mundemi, sepse nuk mund t\u00eb z\u00ebvend\u00ebsojm\u00eb institucionet shtet\u00ebrore n\u00eb pranimin e viktimave. D\u00ebshmit\u00eb publike t\u00eb viktimave kan\u00eb kuptim, e kan\u00eb at\u00eb forc\u00eb vet\u00ebm n\u00ebse i organizojn\u00eb institucionet shtet\u00ebrore. Ne duhet t\u00eb jemi t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb, po ashtu duhet t\u00eb jemi t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjsh\u00ebm se mund t\u00eb m\u00ebsojm\u00eb q\u00eb ta nxisim k\u00ebt\u00eb, q\u00eb p\u00ebrher\u00eb t\u00eb nxisim t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt q\u00eb t\u00eb jen\u00eb promovues&#8221;.<\/p>\n<h3><em>R\u00ebnd\u00ebsia e drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb gjyq\u00ebsore<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>N\u00eb debatin n\u00eb Beograd, krahas artist\u00ebve dhe shkenc\u00ebtar\u00ebve dhe profesor\u00ebve kan\u00eb marr\u00eb pjes\u00eb edhe disa ambasador\u00eb. Kan\u00eb folur p\u00ebr r\u00ebnd\u00ebsin\u00eb e drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb gjyq\u00ebsore dhe se realiteti flet se ajo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e mjaftueshme p\u00ebr procesin e pajtimit, sepse, si\u00e7 ka th\u00ebn\u00eb ambasadori i Zvicr\u00ebs <strong>Jean Daniel Ruch<\/strong>, &#8220;e drejta n\u00eb drejt\u00ebsi \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb aspekt kur flitet p\u00ebr nevojat e viktimave&#8221;. Ambasadori Vincent Degert ka theksuar se shteti ligjor p\u00ebr Bashkimin Evropian \u00ebsht\u00eb &#8220;vler\u00eb mbi t\u00eb cil\u00ebn nuk negociohet dhe se ne mb\u00ebshtetemi n\u00eb te, edhe p\u00ebrkund\u00ebr aktgjykimeve befasuese t\u00eb cilat i kemi d\u00ebgjuar nga gjykata nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare&#8221;. Ai ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se hapi i radh\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb investimi n\u00eb shkolla dhe programet arsimore, ku edhe tashm\u00eb punohet.<\/p>\n<p>Profesor i s\u00eb drejt\u00ebs <strong>Zoran Pajiq<\/strong> n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe Beograd ka folur mbi shp\u00ebrputhjen q\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb evidente ekziston midis aktgjykimeve gjyq\u00ebsore dhe t\u00eb pritmeve t\u00eb viktimave, por ka theksuar se drejt\u00ebsia dhe satisfaksioni i viktimave (para s\u00eb gjithash n\u00ebp\u00ebrmjet qasjes s\u00eb t\u00eb drejtave n\u00eb reparacione) e hapin rrug\u00ebn drejt pajtimit. Profesori <strong>Milan Podunavac <\/strong>\u00ebsht\u00eb pajtuar me profesorin Pajiq se rajoni \u00ebsht\u00eb i ngarkuar me trash\u00ebgimi negative dhe me munges\u00eb t\u00eb refleksionit kritik dhe ka shtuar se n\u00eb Serbi \u00ebsht\u00eb fjala p\u00ebr nj\u00eb problem edhe m\u00eb kompleks. Shoq\u00ebria serbe, sipas tij, \u00ebsht\u00eb e ngarkuar n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb plot\u00ebsuese edhe me faktin se \u00ebsht\u00eb shoq\u00ebri postdiktatoriale e edhe shoq\u00ebri e mundur.&#8221; Shoq\u00ebrit\u00eb e mundura kan\u00eb nj\u00eb problem t\u00eb madh se si ta form\u00ebsojn\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj t\u00eb konsensusit themelor politik brenda t\u00eb cilit nuk ka luft\u00eb politike, garime politike, brenda t\u00eb cilit form\u00ebsohet pajtimi mbi vlerat themelore t\u00eb asaj shoq\u00ebrie&#8221;, ka th\u00ebn\u00eb Podunavac, duke i arsyetuar pengesat ky\u00e7e q\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb para p\u00ebrparimit t\u00eb procesit t\u00eb pajtimit me fqinj\u00ebt.<\/p>\n<p>Shum\u00eb pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebs t\u00eb t\u00eb dyja takimeve kan\u00eb arritur n\u00eb p\u00ebrfundimin se ekziston shum\u00eb pak besim edhe n\u00eb shoqatat e viktimave. Pajiqi dhe Kandiqi kan\u00eb theksuar se politikan\u00ebt i keqp\u00ebrdorin shoqatat dhe se ato, s\u00eb k\u00ebndejmi, nuk mundt\u00eb jen\u00eb bart\u00ebse t\u00eb procesit t\u00eb pajtimit. Tanja Shljivar e ka cekur si nj\u00eb shembull &#8220;d\u00ebshp\u00ebrues&#8221; at\u00eb kur &#8220;kryetarja e Shoqat\u00ebs s\u00eb N\u00ebnave t\u00eb Srebrenic\u00ebs, e ka uruar Kroacin\u00eb p\u00ebr aktgjykimet me t\u00eb cilat lirohen nga p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsia penale gjeneral\u00ebt Gotovina dhe Marka\u00e7i. Dikush, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb simbol i viktim\u00ebs civile e q\u00eb nuk i pranon viktimat e tjera civile dhe, pastaj, si t\u00eb mos mendoj se arritja deri te ai pajtim \u00ebsht\u00eb v\u00ebrtet larg, tmerr\u00ebsisht larg, tmerr\u00ebsisht larg&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jelena Grujiq <\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Debatet mbi pajtimin, t\u00eb mbajtura koh\u00ebt e fundit n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd, kan\u00eb treguar se fuqin\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb madh&#8230; ","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[900],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-127385","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-debatet-sq"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Debatet mbi pajtiminn\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd - p\u00ebrmbledhje - REKOM ~ KOMRA ~ RECOM<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"sq_AL\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Debatet mbi pajtiminn\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd - p\u00ebrmbledhje - REKOM ~ KOMRA ~ RECOM\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Debatet mbi pajtimin, t\u00eb mbajtura koh\u00ebt e fundit n\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd, kan\u00eb treguar se fuqin\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb madh...\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"REKOM ~ KOMRA ~ RECOM\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ZaREKOM.PerKOMRA.ForRECOM\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2015-03-12T16:38:24+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2015-03-12T16:57:40+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Recom Editor\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@REKOM_KOMRA\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@REKOM_KOMRA\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Recom Editor\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"16 minuta\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/\",\"name\":\"Debatet mbi pajtiminn\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd - p\u00ebrmbledhje - REKOM ~ KOMRA ~ RECOM\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/en\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2015-03-12T16:38:24+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2015-03-12T16:57:40+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/en\/#\/schema\/person\/0b0fce47cdf986c8b4194146b69999a3\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"sq\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/sq\/debate-o-pomirenju-u-sarajevu-i-u-beogradu-rezime\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/en\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Debatet mbi pajtiminn\u00eb Sarajev\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Beograd &#8211; 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