{"id":138961,"date":"2016-05-06T10:58:57","date_gmt":"2016-05-06T09:58:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.recom.link\/?p=138961"},"modified":"2016-05-06T10:58:57","modified_gmt":"2016-05-06T09:58:57","slug":"dejvid-tolbert-presude-seselju-karadzicu-gotovini-su-razocaravajuce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/bhsc\/dejvid-tolbert-presude-seselju-karadzicu-gotovini-su-razocaravajuce\/","title":{"rendered":"Dejvid Tolbert: Presude \u0160e\u0161elju, Karad\u017ei\u0107u i Gotovini su razo\u010daravaju\u0107e"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Njujork, Beograd<\/span> – Mislim da je Ha\u0161ki tribunal napravio zna\u010dajan doprinos odgovornosti u zemljama biv\u0161e Jugoslavije, uprkos nedostacima. Njegov rad se mo\u017ee opisati kao me\u0161ovita slika. Mnogo je postignuto i donete su neke veoma va\u017ene odluke i presude, koje \u0107e, nadam se, izdr\u017eati test vremena i pomo\u0107i \u017ertvama i napraviti istorijski zapis u regionu i \u0161ire.<\/p>\n

Moramo da uzmemo u obzir da je to sud i da se ne\u0107emo slo\u017eiti sa svakom odlukom. Mislim da je u velikom broju oblasti Tribunal u\u010dinio dobar posao. Napomenuo bih, naro\u010dito, odluke koje se ti\u010du genocida u Srebrenici i neke odluke koje su postavile kamen temeljac kako u pogledu krivi\u010dnog postupka tako i u razvoju materijalnog me\u0111unarodnog krivi\u010dnog prava. Te odluke su od velike koristi i \u017ertvama i narodima u regionu, ali isto tako obezbe\u0111uju krivi\u010dnu odgovornost i \u0161ire – ka\u017ee za Danas Dejvid Tolbert, predsednik Me\u0111unarodnog centra za tranzicionu pravdu (ICTJ) i nekada\u0161nji zamenik glavnog tu\u017eioca Ha\u0161kog tribunal. Kako isti\u010de, u radu Tribunala bilo je i duboko razo\u010daravaju\u0107ih presuda, poput presude Gotovini, Peri\u0161i\u0107u…<\/p>\n

– Ali, opet, rad sudova u svim zemljama ume da razo\u010dara, prave se gre\u0161ke, \u010dak se dozvoljavaju i poba\u010daji pravde – isti\u010de Tolbert.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Autor: Jelena Dikovi\u0107<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Vojislav \u0160e\u0161elj je slobodan \u010dovek. Kako gledate na osloba\u0111aju\u0107u presudu Tribunala? <\/b><\/p>\n

– Sre\u0107om, usledi\u0107e \u017ealba i \u0161ansa da \u017dalbeno ve\u0107e preispita presudu Pretresnog ve\u0107a i odbaci je. Ne nalazim da je presuda Pretresnog ve\u0107a ubedljiva i uglavnom se s istom ne sla\u017eem. Napomenuo bih da je ovo bio slu\u010daj u kome su neke od najte\u017eih optu\u017ebi bile na osnovu podsticanja da se po\u010dine zlo\u010dini za koje se optu\u017eeni tereti i ba\u0161 zbog toga je ovakve predmete te\u0161ko dokazati. Me\u0111utim, ve\u0107 je bilo osuda za podsticanje na izvr\u0161enje te\u0161kih krivi\u010dnih dela i genocida u Me\u0111unarodnom krivi\u010dnom sudu za Ruandu, stoga uzimaju\u0107i ove presedane u obzir, presuda Tribunala u slu\u010daju Vojislava \u0160e\u0161elja je duboko razo\u010daravaju\u0107a. Zaista je veoma te\u0161ko prihvatiti ovakvu presudu naro\u010dito za \u017ertve, ali mislim da bi trebalo sa\u010dekati da vidimo \u0161ta \u0107e presuditi \u017dalbeno ve\u0107e, te dati mu priliku da naglasi gre\u0161ke u prvostepenoj presudi pre nego \u0161to donesemo kona\u010dnu ocenu rada MKSJ.<\/p>\n

Da li je pravda zadovoljena u slu\u010daju Radovana Karad\u017ei\u0107a, koji je nedavno osu\u0111en na 40 godina zatvora? <\/b><\/p>\n

– Po mom mi\u0161ljenju, presuda u slu\u010daju Karad\u017ei\u0107a, sve u svemu, je prili\u010dno dobra. Sud je uradio dobar posao analiziraju\u0107i \u010dinjenice i primenjuju\u0107i zakon. Nadam se da \u0107e presuda biti definitivna verzija tih u\u017easnih doga\u0111aja. Prona\u0161ao sam dve oblasti u kojima je presuda manje uverljiva. Prvo, na osnovu mog razumevanja dokaza, mislio sam da \u0107e Pretresno ve\u0107e doneti odluku da je genocid po\u010dinjen u bar jo\u0161 nekoliko op\u0161tina, s obzirom na ja\u010dinu dokaza o genocidu. Osim toga, po mom mi\u0161ljenju, ako neka presuda mo\u017ee da opravda odluku o do\u017eivotnom zatvoru, to je presuda u slu\u010daju Karad\u017ei\u0107a. Ne razumem za\u0161to nije izre\u010dena do\u017eivotna kazna zatvora s obzirom na brdo dokaza i te\u017einu zlo\u010dina. Dakle, bio sam kao mnoge \u017ertve i posmatra\u010di, iznena\u0111en da kazna nije bila do\u017eivotna kazna zatvora. Tako da se prili\u010dno ne sla\u017eem sa aspektom odluke Pretresnog ve\u0107a.<\/p>\n

A \u0161ta \u0107emo sa pomirenjem u regionu? Da li je mogu\u0107e posle ovakvih presuda i povratka politi\u010dara i stranaka iz devedesetih? <\/b><\/p>\n

– Mislim da je pomirenje dugotrajan proces i da glavni faktor u njegovom postizanju ne\u0107e do\u0107i iz odluka suda u Hagu. Neki od nalaza u presudama su veoma va\u017eni, te mora da postoji nada da \u0107e postati \u0161iroko prihva\u0107eni tokom vremena. Ono \u0161to je najva\u017enije je da do\u0111e kraj poricanju, da dr\u017eave i politi\u010dki lideri preuzmu odgovornost za zlo\u010dine koji su po\u010dinili njihovi prethodnici, da se izvine, da se plate reparacije \u017ertvama. Na kraju krajeva, dobri ljudi u svakoj od zemalja u regionu treba da se bore za istinu o tome \u0161ta se dogodilo. \u0160kole moraju da po\u010dnu da govore istinu, a ne da \u0161ire propagandu. Me\u0111unarodni sudovi mogu da imaju svoju ulogu tako \u0161to \u0107e da uspostave evidencije, ali na kraju sve je na samim dru\u0161tvima koja treba da vide \u0161ta su uradila i da preuzmu odgovornost. Sve dok se to ne desi, pomirenje u regionu ne\u0107e po\u010deti. Za to treba vremena i liderstva. Vili Brant je pao na kolena pred spomenikom \u017ertvama Var\u0161avskog geta. Moramo da vidimo lidere koji \u0107e isto to uraditi pred memorijalnim spomenikom u Srebrenici. Potrebno je i veoma aktivno anga\u017eovanje civilnog dru\u0161tva da bi se okon\u010dalo poricanje. U tom smislu, presude Tribunala mogu da igraju veoma va\u017enu ulogu, ali pre svega, regionu su potrebni ljudi poput Branta i Mandele da istupe i ka\u017eu istinu o onome \u0161to se dogodilo. Tek tada mo\u017eemo po\u010deti da govorimo o pomirenju.<\/p>\n

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Bi\u0107emo aktivni na svim frontovima<\/h2>\n

Koji su planovi ICTJ-a u narednom periodu? <\/b><\/p>\n

– Nastavljamo sa aktivnostima na svim frontovima. Pru\u017eamo savete i tehni\u010dku pomo\u0107 u kolumbijskom mirovnom procesu, koji donosi nadu ovoj va\u017enoj dr\u017eavi koja je iskusila dug i krvav sukob. Radimo u Tunisu sa Komisijom za istinu i dostojanstvo i sa specijalnim Ve\u0107em za ljudska prava. U Velikim jezerima Afrike smo uspeli da okupimo ministre pravde i generale advokate okolnih zemalja kako bi se osigurala krivi\u010dna odgovornost za po\u010dinioce u\u017easnih zlo\u010dina. Na Bliskom istoku radimo sa grupama civilnog dru\u0161tva na koracima koje mogu preduzeti da bi pomogli u u\u017easnom, srceparaju\u0107em raseljavanju – krizom, koja ne samo da uti\u010de na ovo podru\u010dije, ve\u0107 i na delove Afrike i Azije. Upravo sam se vratio sa sastanka sa visokim afri\u010dkim zvani\u010dnicima i zajedno sa Kofi Ananom smo predstavili izve\u0161taj za koji smatramo da \u0107e biti od pomo\u0107i u mirovnim pregovorima. Ono \u0161to mi najvi\u0161e nedostaje iz mojih dana u Ha\u0161kom tribunalu je anga\u017eovanje sa ljudima iz biv\u0161e Jugoslavije, brojnim prijateljima i partnerima u celom regionu. Nadam se da \u0107u se uskoro vratiti.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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