{"id":136157,"date":"2015-12-02T14:01:15","date_gmt":"2015-12-02T13:01:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.recom.link\/puhovski-ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji-2\/"},"modified":"2016-05-09T20:13:23","modified_gmt":"2016-05-09T19:13:23","slug":"puhovski-ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.recom.link\/bhsc\/puhovski-ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji\/","title":{"rendered":"Puhovski: Ostale zemlje imaju ministarstvo veterana, smije\u0161no je da kod nas jo\u0161 postoje branitelji"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"lead-text\">\n<p><em>To su mitske kategorije, jer samo u mitu vrijeme se ne mi\u010de, isti\u010de Puhovski<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"large-image\">\n<div id=\"mixedwrap\" class=\"only-one\">\n<div id=\"slide1\" class=\"gpane image showtab\">\n<div class=\"fixed\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Foto N. Reber\u0161ak\" src=\"http:\/\/www.novilist.hr\/var\/novilist\/storage\/images\/vijesti\/hrvatska\/puhovski-ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji\/7581576-1-cro-HR\/Puhovski-Ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji_ca_large.jpg\" alt=\"Foto N. Reber\u0161ak\" width=\"518\" height=\"325\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"image-info\">Foto N. Reber\u0161ak<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"image-info\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"image-info\">Autor: Boris Paveli\u0107, Novi list<\/div>\n<div class=\"image-info\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"image-info\"><\/div>\n<p><b>ZAGREB\u00a0 <\/b> Datum po\u010detka i narav rata u Hrvatskoj \u2013 i te elementarne teme pokazale su se spornima ve\u0107 na samome po\u010detku javne rasprave o poslijeratnom pomirenju koju je ju\u010der u Zagrebu organizirala Regionalna komisija za utvr\u0111ivanje \u010dinjenica o ratu i pora\u0107u, poznatija pod kraticom Rekom.<\/p>\n<p>\u017destoku, ali civiliziranu polemiku zametnuli su filozof \u017darko Puhovski i povjesni\u010dar Josip Jur\u010devi\u0107. Puhovski tvrdi da je rat u Hrvatskoj po\u010deo 1991. godine, \u00bbnapadom na Osijek i Vukovar\u00ab, te da je bio kombinacija agresije Jugoslavije i gra\u0111anskog rata. Jur\u010devi\u0107 uzvra\u0107a kako je rije\u010d isklju\u010divo o agresiji Srbije koja je po\u010dela 17. kolovoza 1990. godine, s prvim balvanima u Kninu. \u00bbDobro je po\u010deti vicem, ali ne lo\u0161im. Rat koji je po\u010deo \u0161est mjeseci prije prve \u017ertve, to je lo\u0161 vic\u00ab, uzvra\u0107a Puhovski, dok Jur\u010devi\u0107 tvrdi kako je 17. kolovoza 1990. \u00bbdio teritorija oru\u017eanim putem isklju\u010den iz ingerencije legalne vlasti, \u0161to je definicija okupacije\u00ab. Tvrdnju o po\u010detku rata u kolovozu 1990. Puhovski naziva \u00bbizmi\u0161ljotinom\u00ab. \u00bbU Kninu nije bilo ni\u0161ta druk\u010dije nego u Vukovaru, skupina radikala blokirala je promet. Uostalom, da je tada po\u010delo, bio bi to gra\u0111anski rat. Rije\u010d je o poku\u0161aju da se doga\u0111aji utemelje unatrag. Ne znamo kada je rat to\u010dno po\u010deo, jer nikada nije progla\u0161en\u00ab, tvrdi Puhovski. Dodaje kako \u00bbnema dvojbe da je rije\u010d o agresiji na Hrvatsku, ali ne Srbije, nego Jugoslavije, kao \u0161to nema dvojbe da je rije\u010d o kombinaciji agresije i gra\u0111anskog rata\u00ab. Puhovski pritom smatra kako je \u00bbnajsmje\u0161nije da jo\u0161 postoje branitelji\u00ab, jer zemlju vi\u0161e ne treba braniti. \u00bbTo su mitske kategorije, jer samo u mitu vrijeme se ne mi\u010de. Ti ljudi su petrificirali svoju ulogu. Ostale zemlje imaju ministarstva veterana. U Hrvatskoj je na djelu institucijska poreme\u0107enost i prezir prema \u010dinjenicama\u00ab, ocjenjuje Puhovski.<\/p>\n<p>Jur\u010devi\u0107 je pak nevladinu scenu \u2013 spomenuv\u0161i izrijekom \u00bbRekom, Documentu, Nata\u0161u Kandi\u0107 i Sarajevo\u00ab, ali i \u00bbgotovo sve povjesni\u010dare\u00ab, optu\u017eio za \u00bbkrivotvorenje elementarnih \u010dinjenica\u00ab i \u00bbtotalitarnu jednoumnu paradigmu\u00ab.<\/p>\n<p>Sociologinja Svetlana Slap\u0161ak dr\u017ei kako se pomirenje \u00bbsvodi na uspje\u0161an ritual, koji mo\u017ee zadovoljiti do mjere da se \u017eivi bez klanja\u00ab. Zato je, dr\u017ei, od pomirenja va\u017enije\u00a0 \u00bbobrazovanje za mir\u00ab, a upravo time, uz utvr\u0111ivanje \u010dinjenica, bavi se Rekom.<\/p>\n<p>Povjesni\u010dar Hrvoje Klasi\u0107 ocjenjuje kako su odnosi Hrvata i Srba, naro\u010dito mladih, mnogo bolji nego \u0161to bi se moglo o\u010dekivati, s obzirom na sve \u0161to se doga\u0111alo prije 25 godina. \u00bbHrvatima su danas ve\u0107i problem Hrvati koji druk\u010dije misle, nego bilo koji Srbin. Problem je u tome \u0161to smo dru\u0161tvo monologa\u00ab, dr\u017ei Klasi\u0107, pitaju\u0107i se za\u0161to se smije re\u0107i da su druge zemlje imale gra\u0111anski rat, ali ne i da ga je imala Hrvatska. <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"square\" src=\"http:\/\/www.novilist.hr\/extension\/novilist\/design\/novilist\/images\/square.gif\" alt=\"kraj teksta\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.novilist.hr\/Vijesti\/Hrvatska\/Puhovski-Ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji\" target=\"_blank\">Objavljeno u Novom listu,<\/a><span id=\"date\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.novilist.hr\/Vijesti\/Hrvatska\/Puhovski-Ostale-zemlje-imaju-ministarstvo-veterana-smijesno-je-da-kod-nas-jos-postoje-branitelji\" target=\"_blank\"> 2. prosinca 2015.<\/a>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"article-tools\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"To su mitske kategorije, jer samo u mitu vrijeme se ne mi\u010de, isti\u010de Puhovski &nbsp; Foto N. 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